[Board] 4064 South Hudson Way

Darcy Beard CPA darcybeardcpa at comcast.net
Fri Oct 14 16:45:34 EDT 2022


Hi Keith,
I have changed my email address to d.beardcpa at outlook.com mailto:d.beardcpa at outlook.com .
Thanks,
Darcy

>     On 10/14/2022 1:22 PM Keith Bierman <khbkhb at gmail.com> wrote:
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>     So why does anyone prefer/permit T's? Surely there's some claimed benefit (or just one less bit of inventory to stock on the truck)?
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>     Keith Bierman
>     khbkhb at gmail.com mailto:khbkhb at gmail.com
>     303 997 2749
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>     On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 1:15 PM Steve Homer <steve at purringtoncivil.com mailto:steve at purringtoncivil.com > wrote:
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> >         The extra bend simply forces the sewage to move into the direction of flow of the sewage in the main.  Similar to a highway on-ramp where you merge with traffic vs. stopping at stop sign and turning into traffic at 90-degrees.
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> >         Tees are not bad, they are just not our 1st choice.
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> >         Steven Homer, P.E.
> >         Purrington Civil, LLC 
> >         1299 Washington Avenue, Suite 280
> >         Golden, CO  80401
> >         303.913.6514 / phttp://www.PurringtonCivil.com
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> >         From: Keith Bierman <khbkhb at gmail.com mailto:khbkhb at gmail.com >
> >         Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 1:09 PM
> >         To: Steve Homer
> >         Cc: Chris Purrington; board at chnorthmetro.us mailto:board at chnorthmetro.us
> >         Subject: Re: [Board] 4064 South Hudson Way
> > 
> >         Yes, its a 45º difference :>
> > 
> >         What's the benefit of the extra bend? Or the hazard of not having it.  
> > 
> >         For the Board, if we are responsible for inspections ... what do we need to do to ensure that we are notified in a timely fashion? I'd ask for Marcus's input ... but he's been unresponsive ;<
> > 
> >         Keith Bierman
> >         khbkhb at gmail.com mailto:khbkhb at gmail.com
> >         303 997 2749
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> >         On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 11:58 AM Steve Homer <steve at purringtoncivil.com mailto:steve at purringtoncivil.com > wrote:
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> > >             Keith,
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> > >             The tee connection is not harmful to the District or the homeowner.  They function fine and are an acceptable connection in other jurisdictions.
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> > >             We prefer wye connections vs. tee connections since the wye adds a 45-degree angle when discharging into the main.  A tee discharges into the main at a 90-degree angle.  It's a small difference.
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> > >             Kind Regards,
> > > 
> > > 
> > >             Steven Homer, P.E.
> > >             Purrington Civil, LLC 
> > >             1299 Washington Avenue, Suite 280
> > >             Golden, CO  80401
> > >             303.913.6514 / phttp://www.PurringtonCivil.com
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> > >             ---------------------------------------------
> > >             From: Chris Purrington
> > >             Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 11:27 AM
> > >             To: Steve Homer
> > >             Subject: Fwd: [Board] 4064 South Hudson Way
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> > > 
> > >             Sent from my iPhone
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> > >             Begin forwarded message:
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> > >                 > > > >                 From: Keith Bierman <khbkhb at gmail.com mailto:khbkhb at gmail.com >
> > > >                 Date: October 14, 2022 at 11:08:30 AM MDT
> > > >                 To: District Board of Directors+District Manager <board at chnorthmetro.us mailto:board at chnorthmetro.us >
> > > >                 Cc: Chris Purrington <chris at purringtoncivil.com mailto:chris at purringtoncivil.com >
> > > >                 Subject: Re: [Board] 4064 South Hudson Way
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> > > >             > > > 
> > >                 > > > >                 Steve? Chris?? as above, what are the failure modes? Can this damage the system, or "just" result in more problems for the homeowner?
> > > >                 Keith Bierman
> > > >                 khbkhb at gmail.com mailto:khbkhb at gmail.com
> > > >                 303 997 2749
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> > > > 
> > > >                 On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 9:43 PM Keith Bierman <khbkhb at gmail.com mailto:khbkhb at gmail.com > wrote:
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> > > >                     > > > > >                     @steve what’s the failure mode of a tee in this context? Can it harm the system or “just” result in a backup for the homeowner?
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     khbkhb at gmail.com mailto:khbkhb at gmail.com |  khbkhb123 at icloud.com mailto:khbkhb123 at icloud.com (iMessage)
> > > > >                     303-997-2749 Mobile
> > > > >                     Sent from my iPad
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> > > > >                         > > > > > > On Oct 5, 2022, at 11:41 AM, Steve Homer <steve at purringtoncivil.com mailto:steve at purringtoncivil.com > wrote:
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> > > > > >                         CHNMD Board of Directors,
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> > > > > >                         On Thursday September 29 at about 3:45pm, I received a phone call from Scott Cutting with Plumbline Services.  They were finishing a sanitary sewer service replacement at the referenced address.  Scott explained that there was some confusion with which sanitation district held jurisdiction and that is why he was calling at the end of the work.  He asked if I could come out to the address immediately to inspect the service line, but I was unable to do so as I was leaving work for the day.  I asked him to email me pictures and to install a WYE connection at the main.  He agreed.
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> > > > > >                         Scott emailed me pictures a few minutes later, but I had already left the office for the day.  Upon opening the email on Friday, I noticed that Plumbline Services installed a TEE connection at the main in lieu of a WYE (see attached photos).
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> > > > > >                         Overall, we are unhappy that Plumbline Services did not notify us for an inspection 48 hours prior to the work and that they used a TEE connection in lieu of a WYE.  The project is already backfilled & compacted.  We believe a TEE connection will still function adequately despite being outside of specifications.
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> > > > > >                         Please let us know if you have any comments or require any action as a result of the work.
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> > > > > >                         Kind Regards,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         Steven Homer, P.E.
> > > > > >                         Purrington Civil, LLC 
> > > > > >                         1299 Washington Avenue, Suite 280
> > > > > >                         Golden, CO  80401
> > > > > >                         303.913.6514 / phttp://www.PurringtonCivil.com
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